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	<title>Comments on: Zinefest: the only good party I ever threw</title>
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		<title>By: Meghan Hogan</title>
		<link>http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/07/17/zinefest-the-only-good-party-i-ever-threw/comment-page-1/#comment-15167</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghan Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, THANK YOU for mentioning vegans on your list! Last Fall when we exhibited at APE the only vegan option was (you said it) bananas and also fries. There were no restaurants around the convention site to look for alternatives. 

At APE, we shared a table with Tessa from Tessa&#039;s Braces whom we hadn&#039;t met before...and she was also vegan! She opted to pick the meat and dairy out of her convention sandwich.

The list of vegan comic artists is big enough to warrant planning around. So, for all of you who plan conventions, please listen to Sarah and remember us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, THANK YOU for mentioning vegans on your list! Last Fall when we exhibited at APE the only vegan option was (you said it) bananas and also fries. There were no restaurants around the convention site to look for alternatives. </p>
<p>At APE, we shared a table with Tessa from Tessa&#8217;s Braces whom we hadn&#8217;t met before&#8230;and she was also vegan! She opted to pick the meat and dairy out of her convention sandwich.</p>
<p>The list of vegan comic artists is big enough to warrant planning around. So, for all of you who plan conventions, please listen to Sarah and remember us.</p>
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		<title>By: smorean</title>
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		<dc:creator>smorean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In MoCCA&#039;s defense, they are hosting the MoCCA Art Festival as a fund-raiser for their non-profit organization/museum.  So that&#039;s being built into the rising table cost and admission fee structure, I&#039;m sure.  

However, if that&#039;s the case, they should call a percentage of each table cost a tax-deductible donation, yah?  Maybe that&#039;s not possible, but it&#039;s just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In MoCCA&#8217;s defense, they are hosting the MoCCA Art Festival as a fund-raiser for their non-profit organization/museum.  So that&#8217;s being built into the rising table cost and admission fee structure, I&#8217;m sure.  </p>
<p>However, if that&#8217;s the case, they should call a percentage of each table cost a tax-deductible donation, yah?  Maybe that&#8217;s not possible, but it&#8217;s just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: François Vigneault</title>
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		<dc:creator>François Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a head&#039;s up, the NYC Zine Fest just had their maiden voyage a couple of weeks ago, and I am sure that next year they would be delighted to welcome indy creators who have been priced out of MoCCA: www.nyczinefest.org

I would imagine that a convention for conventioneers would be a bit like the event planning class I took last year, which is to say, awful. Although some of the broad points can be helpful, the thrust of the event planning industry has almost nothing to do with grassroots events along the lines of SF, NYC, or Twin Cities Zine Fests.

I just want to also pipe in about table fees... Although I totally agree that a lot of &quot;indy&quot; shows are getting ridiculous (I have personally been priced out of MoCCA, for sure!), I think that its important that exhibitors (myself included) keep in mind that these events take a huge commitment to put on, in both money and time. If you keep the table fees bargain basement, then you have to run an all volunteer operation (which as Sarah mentioned, leads to severe burn out and heavy turn over, both of which I see as very bad things for the fest), and it becomes very hard to afford the basiscs (esp. in expensive cities like SF and NY), much less a rental space that&#039;s a bit nicer, or perhaps is more centrally located, leading to more foot traffic, which leads to more sales for the exhibitors, etc. Just a thought. I think, like Anna said, the main thing is to have venues for all different kinds of creators, from zine fests up thru MoCCA &amp; APE and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a head&#8217;s up, the NYC Zine Fest just had their maiden voyage a couple of weeks ago, and I am sure that next year they would be delighted to welcome indy creators who have been priced out of MoCCA: <a href="http://www.nyczinefest.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyczinefest.org</a></p>
<p>I would imagine that a convention for conventioneers would be a bit like the event planning class I took last year, which is to say, awful. Although some of the broad points can be helpful, the thrust of the event planning industry has almost nothing to do with grassroots events along the lines of SF, NYC, or Twin Cities Zine Fests.</p>
<p>I just want to also pipe in about table fees&#8230; Although I totally agree that a lot of &#8220;indy&#8221; shows are getting ridiculous (I have personally been priced out of MoCCA, for sure!), I think that its important that exhibitors (myself included) keep in mind that these events take a huge commitment to put on, in both money and time. If you keep the table fees bargain basement, then you have to run an all volunteer operation (which as Sarah mentioned, leads to severe burn out and heavy turn over, both of which I see as very bad things for the fest), and it becomes very hard to afford the basiscs (esp. in expensive cities like SF and NY), much less a rental space that&#8217;s a bit nicer, or perhaps is more centrally located, leading to more foot traffic, which leads to more sales for the exhibitors, etc. Just a thought. I think, like Anna said, the main thing is to have venues for all different kinds of creators, from zine fests up thru MoCCA &amp; APE and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Bongiovanni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Bongiovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, you did an awesome amazing job at Zinefest this year and I think it&#039;ll do people good to listen to your advice.

 I especially like the part about keeping table prices LOW, I went to MOCCA this summer and could barely afford it even though I was sharing the table with three other people. Now the table prices have gone even HIGHER and it&#039;s no longer an indie-comic convention because the indie comic-makers can&#039;t afford the table price. I&#039;m hoping that around the same time as MOCCA next year there will be a smaller, more affordable convention in NY,  truly aimed at the small comic publishers. Y&#039;know, something like Zinefest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, you did an awesome amazing job at Zinefest this year and I think it&#8217;ll do people good to listen to your advice.</p>
<p> I especially like the part about keeping table prices LOW, I went to MOCCA this summer and could barely afford it even though I was sharing the table with three other people. Now the table prices have gone even HIGHER and it&#8217;s no longer an indie-comic convention because the indie comic-makers can&#8217;t afford the table price. I&#8217;m hoping that around the same time as MOCCA next year there will be a smaller, more affordable convention in NY,  truly aimed at the small comic publishers. Y&#8217;know, something like Zinefest.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are conventions for convention planners.

In the UK there is ConRunner, and in the US there is SMOF con.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are conventions for convention planners.</p>
<p>In the UK there is ConRunner, and in the US there is SMOF con.</p>
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		<title>By: MANLY TALES OF COWARDICE&#8211;issue three&#8211;pg 14(of 16), also: Me at Zinefest&#8230;? &#171; staplegenius.com(ics)</title>
		<link>http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/07/17/zinefest-the-only-good-party-i-ever-threw/comment-page-1/#comment-14714</link>
		<dc:creator>MANLY TALES OF COWARDICE&#8211;issue three&#8211;pg 14(of 16), also: Me at Zinefest&#8230;? &#171; staplegenius.com(ics)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ***Also, SARAH MOREAN did a quasi wrap-up of ZINEFEST on THE DAILY CROSSHATCH, but really it&#8217;s more like tips on how to throw a good con(which she knows how to do). It&#8217;s a nice article and if you squint REALLY HARD at the second picture you can kinda make me out behind Ryan Dow&#8217;s Buddha stand-up. http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/07/17/zinefest-the-only-good-party-i-ever-threw/#more-4182 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ***Also, SARAH MOREAN did a quasi wrap-up of ZINEFEST on THE DAILY CROSSHATCH, but really it&#8217;s more like tips on how to throw a good con(which she knows how to do). It&#8217;s a nice article and if you squint REALLY HARD at the second picture you can kinda make me out behind Ryan Dow&#8217;s Buddha stand-up. <a href="http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/07/17/zinefest-the-only-good-party-i-ever-threw/#more-4182" rel="nofollow">http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/07/17/zinefest-the-only-good-party-i-ever-threw/#more-4182</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: François Vigneault</title>
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		<dc:creator>François Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts Sarah! I&#039;m looking forward to chatting with you in the future about DIY festivals... I esp. agree with you on the &quot;yawn&quot; quality of so many panels... striking the balance is key.  Also, how much were your exhibitor spaces this year? We&#039;re struggling to keep our prices low in the face of mounting costs. Anyways, congrats on what seems like a successful show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts Sarah! I&#8217;m looking forward to chatting with you in the future about DIY festivals&#8230; I esp. agree with you on the &#8220;yawn&#8221; quality of so many panels&#8230; striking the balance is key.  Also, how much were your exhibitor spaces this year? We&#8217;re struggling to keep our prices low in the face of mounting costs. Anyways, congrats on what seems like a successful show!</p>
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		<title>By: Argel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will those table prices go down?! I&#039;m sure I would enjoy reading the follow up as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will those table prices go down?! I&#8217;m sure I would enjoy reading the follow up as well.</p>
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		<title>By: smorean</title>
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		<dc:creator>smorean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, you three!  Makes me want to do a follow-up from the exhibitor&#039;s perspective.  Perhaps I shall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, you three!  Makes me want to do a follow-up from the exhibitor&#8217;s perspective.  Perhaps I shall.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Sarah. Thanks for coordinating this event, it was really great. 

I really like the idea of panels targeted at exhibitors. Especially &quot;making your hobby into a business.&quot; I feel that it doesn&#039;t take much to open up Excel and document your expenses vs. profits, yet so little of us do it. Almost every self-publisher is losing money, so we might as well get some credits back for it!!! 

Again, thanks for the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Sarah. Thanks for coordinating this event, it was really great. </p>
<p>I really like the idea of panels targeted at exhibitors. Especially &#8220;making your hobby into a business.&#8221; I feel that it doesn&#8217;t take much to open up Excel and document your expenses vs. profits, yet so little of us do it. Almost every self-publisher is losing money, so we might as well get some credits back for it!!! </p>
<p>Again, thanks for the event.</p>
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